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even though Rockefeller is like you said

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the black sheep of the Rockefeller

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family he knows he's a rockefeller yeah

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yeah yeah and I'm going in - I'm going

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in the president's office I'm gonna go

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in the president's office and then I

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remember bud says he says I said to mr.

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Rockefeller said mr. Rockefeller I don't

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think it works like that I don't care

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I'm gonna I'm going in there and I'm

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gonna tell the president I'm gonna I'm

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gonna get this thing disclosed and so

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when Clinton wins he immediately makes

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his move and he because he's a

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rockefeller and because he's a big

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campaign contributor to the Democratic

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Party they've got to deal with this guy

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and this is where I get in this thing

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the president doesn't know Rockefeller

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never deals with the president ever he

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never gets to the president he gets cut

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off at the pass with this with the

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offices of the jack Gibbons who is his

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science adviser and whole dodgy just to

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clarify you're suggesting that that is a

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strategy for this idea of plausible

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deniability don't get too close to the

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president so the president in this case

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Clinton has a very intense interest in

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the topic but he knows that because he's

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schooled by people around him that will

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get you the information you need but you

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don't you need to have a little bit of a

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distance a little bit of plausible

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deniability with this guy so that's how

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this thing is then orchestrated and

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plays out so please continue there's a

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there's a scientist

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Ron Pandolfi who I often reference who

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was the top scientist and CIA and he was

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supposed to be the run the weird desk

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all the paranormal phenomena UFOs and

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which is interesting because in the in

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the CIA it's called phenomenology

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it's not called ufos called

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phenomenology which is what i say now

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it's all the same thing it's all

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connected if you know how it all fits

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together it's the same thing so he's the

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head of the phenomenology department in

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handling the UFO FILES and his words are

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the president can't be a player he

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basically and that's what it comes down

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to is that if the president has all

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information we don't need to be playing

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with answering questions people it's

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like Bill Clinton described it to

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Rockefeller when he was at the ranch he

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said this story is like the tar baby you

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touch the star baby or the tar baby you

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get stuck to it then you try to get away

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from it and all you do is get more

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tangled into it

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the only Hillary Clinton since thought

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to briefing and at that point she says

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to him in the next morning according to

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what Whitley Strieber reporter said

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Hillary says to him now we've listened